hate to sound stupid, but i could not find a place where i could change ansi_nulls, ansi_warnings, quoted_identifiers, etc. for enterprise manager.
a "developer" approached me with this question because he "wants" to be able to create tables and views without having to use query analyzer, but also wants to use specific (not default) settings through enterprise manager.
anyone knows?
thanks in advance.Howdy,
I was sitting here musing over this problem and it occurred to me that if you could set those options in EM, it logically would have to override these settings for every single server registered in EM.
This would cause everything to go nuts as apps failed on some servers and all generally goes to custard ......
Your developer sounds like he needs to read some devlopment books...
Cheers,
SG|||you can cahnge some of those for the default connection properties in the server properties for each server and one or two of them in the properties pages for each database... probably be best off setting them via the system stored procedures, I'm pretty sure you can set some or most of those options on individual databases|||Tell your developer he needs to use QA
EM can get funky...|||yeah, i would have, only if they were not considered "our customers". untill then (or until i get hired by a company that gives due respect to dba's), - i'll have to go to his desk and play tech support level 2... :(|||Judging from all the funky stuff that Enterprise Mangler does, I suspect you could not change these settings, unless you coded your own EM. I have had users create tables called "dbo.table", when they try to specify dbo as the owner of the table. Maybe it is just my programmers, but I agree with the majortiy opnion here. Query Analyzer is the way to go. EM can help with diagrams, but it is not an all inclusive tool.|||Howdy,
For what its worth - at some stage they will eventually have to hear the word "No!!" ...customer or no customer....some things cant be bent... unless of course they want to pay handsomely for it.... ;-)
Stay cool,
Cheers,
SG.
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Monday, March 19, 2012
Sunday, February 19, 2012
Enterprise Manager and its particularities
Dear all,
I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own workstation,
then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of times I am obligate
d
to close and open again.
I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I don't
think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for do a refresh.
In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing happens, objects such as
views, sp or tables are missing.
It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
Thanks a lot and regards,Enric wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own
> workstation, then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of
> times I am obligated to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I
> don't think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for
> do a refresh. In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing
> happens, objects such as views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,
I've seen a few others post this issue on SQL EM, but most of us here
have not experienced the problem. With me, anyway, a selecting the
Refresh context menu option performs the necessary refresh and the new
objects appear.
Can you document the steps to consistently reproduce the refresh issue
or is this something that does not occur with any consistency?
Also, what version of SQL EM are you using? Check Help | About and post
the full version.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||Enric wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own
> workstation, then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of
> times I am obligated to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I
> don't think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for
> do a refresh. In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing
> happens, objects such as views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,
Clarification: For the version, just let us know what SQL Server service
pack you've installed on your client. The version appears to only show
the major version, not the SP level.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||What happend if instead closing, you just disconnect and connect agaiin to
the server?
AMB
"Enric" wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own workstation,
> then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of times I am obliga
ted
> to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I don't
> think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for do a refresh
.
> In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing happens, objects such as
> views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,|||You need to refresh at the right level. Don't do the highest level. Refresh
doesn't work "all the
way down". Do refresh on the right container.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Enric" <Enric@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:259BA9D3-01BE-4962-8F1F-86EB413D4C32@.microsoft.com...
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own workstation,
> then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of times I am obliga
ted
> to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I don't
> think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for do a refresh
.
> In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing happens, objects such as
> views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,|||EM is not "active" in the sense that it does not sense changes it does not
make. It is an application that initializes iteslf with data, and knows wha
t
IT does, but not what others (Query Analyzer) do until it re-selects data.
If you want to see new tables, right-click on the "tables" tree in the left
pane and select "refresh". Your new tables will now appear. You can refres
h
at various levels, but the higher-up you go, the longer it will take.
"David Gugick" wrote:
> Enric wrote:
> Clarification: For the version, just let us know what SQL Server service
> pack you've installed on your client. The version appears to only show
> the major version, not the SP level.
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com
>|||Thanks to all for response.
Tibor,
Your fix not always works.
David,
All the SQL SERVERS (2000) own sp3 and sp3a for olap services.
I think that it could be a network problem between domains or something like
that. There are two sql server which are living in an AD environment, the
rest one running under NT Domains.
Well, I also want understand that maybe to have so many servers at the same
time...
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> You need to refresh at the right level. Don't do the highest level. Refres
h doesn't work "all the
> way down". Do refresh on the right container.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
> Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
>
> "Enric" <Enric@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:259BA9D3-01BE-4962-8F1F-86EB413D4C32@.microsoft.com...
>|||Enric wrote:
> Thanks to all for response.
> Tibor,
> Your fix not always works.
> David,
> All the SQL SERVERS (2000) own sp3 and sp3a for olap services.
> I think that it could be a network problem between domains or
> something like that. There are two sql server which are living in an
> AD environment, the rest one running under NT Domains.
>
Service Packs should be applied to the client as well as the server.
That's why I asked what version you have on the client. You can check
this from Query Analyzer on the client. You should be running 8.00.760
for SP3/SP3a.
It's possible the RTM release of SQL EM had refresh problems.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||Hi
We have in excess of 95 servers in our EM at work, across multiple domains.
The SP is applied to both the servers and client workstations with EM
installed.
Right clicking as described by other posts in this thread works for us 100%
If you have networking problems between domains, you would get errors as the
objects are refreshed out of sysobjects in each database. It either works or
it gives you an error.
Regards
--
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"Enric" <Enric@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CFD1B642-341C-4A97-8D0B-DFDBF16C15FF@.microsoft.com...
> Thanks to all for response.
> Tibor,
> Your fix not always works.
> David,
> All the SQL SERVERS (2000) own sp3 and sp3a for olap services.
> I think that it could be a network problem between domains or something
> like
> that. There are two sql server which are living in an AD environment, the
> rest one running under NT Domains.
> Well, I also want understand that maybe to have so many servers at the
> same
> time...
> "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>
I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own workstation,
then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of times I am obligate
d
to close and open again.
I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I don't
think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for do a refresh.
In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing happens, objects such as
views, sp or tables are missing.
It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
Thanks a lot and regards,Enric wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own
> workstation, then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of
> times I am obligated to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I
> don't think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for
> do a refresh. In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing
> happens, objects such as views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,
I've seen a few others post this issue on SQL EM, but most of us here
have not experienced the problem. With me, anyway, a selecting the
Refresh context menu option performs the necessary refresh and the new
objects appear.
Can you document the steps to consistently reproduce the refresh issue
or is this something that does not occur with any consistency?
Also, what version of SQL EM are you using? Check Help | About and post
the full version.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||Enric wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own
> workstation, then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of
> times I am obligated to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I
> don't think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for
> do a refresh. In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing
> happens, objects such as views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,
Clarification: For the version, just let us know what SQL Server service
pack you've installed on your client. The version appears to only show
the major version, not the SP level.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||What happend if instead closing, you just disconnect and connect agaiin to
the server?
AMB
"Enric" wrote:
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own workstation,
> then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of times I am obliga
ted
> to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I don't
> think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for do a refresh
.
> In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing happens, objects such as
> views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,|||You need to refresh at the right level. Don't do the highest level. Refresh
doesn't work "all the
way down". Do refresh on the right container.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Enric" <Enric@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:259BA9D3-01BE-4962-8F1F-86EB413D4C32@.microsoft.com...
> Dear all,
> I'm fed up with this problem. I hate that behaviour.
> When I create objects from a query analyser session in my own workstation,
> then these objects doesn't visible from my MMC. A lot of times I am obliga
ted
> to close and open again.
> I've got a MMC with 13 Sql Server and some of them are remote but I don't
> think that that aspect could to interfere in the response for do a refresh
.
> In a fact I do highest level refresh but nothing happens, objects such as
> views, sp or tables are missing.
> It's a waste time. Why on earth is happening this?
> Thanks a lot and regards,|||EM is not "active" in the sense that it does not sense changes it does not
make. It is an application that initializes iteslf with data, and knows wha
t
IT does, but not what others (Query Analyzer) do until it re-selects data.
If you want to see new tables, right-click on the "tables" tree in the left
pane and select "refresh". Your new tables will now appear. You can refres
h
at various levels, but the higher-up you go, the longer it will take.
"David Gugick" wrote:
> Enric wrote:
> Clarification: For the version, just let us know what SQL Server service
> pack you've installed on your client. The version appears to only show
> the major version, not the SP level.
> --
> David Gugick
> Quest Software
> www.imceda.com
> www.quest.com
>|||Thanks to all for response.
Tibor,
Your fix not always works.
David,
All the SQL SERVERS (2000) own sp3 and sp3a for olap services.
I think that it could be a network problem between domains or something like
that. There are two sql server which are living in an AD environment, the
rest one running under NT Domains.
Well, I also want understand that maybe to have so many servers at the same
time...
"Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
> You need to refresh at the right level. Don't do the highest level. Refres
h doesn't work "all the
> way down". Do refresh on the right container.
> --
> Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
> http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
> http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
> Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
>
> "Enric" <Enric@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:259BA9D3-01BE-4962-8F1F-86EB413D4C32@.microsoft.com...
>|||Enric wrote:
> Thanks to all for response.
> Tibor,
> Your fix not always works.
> David,
> All the SQL SERVERS (2000) own sp3 and sp3a for olap services.
> I think that it could be a network problem between domains or
> something like that. There are two sql server which are living in an
> AD environment, the rest one running under NT Domains.
>
Service Packs should be applied to the client as well as the server.
That's why I asked what version you have on the client. You can check
this from Query Analyzer on the client. You should be running 8.00.760
for SP3/SP3a.
It's possible the RTM release of SQL EM had refresh problems.
David Gugick
Quest Software
www.imceda.com
www.quest.com|||Hi
We have in excess of 95 servers in our EM at work, across multiple domains.
The SP is applied to both the servers and client workstations with EM
installed.
Right clicking as described by other posts in this thread works for us 100%
If you have networking problems between domains, you would get errors as the
objects are refreshed out of sysobjects in each database. It either works or
it gives you an error.
Regards
--
Mike Epprecht, Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Zurich, Switzerland
IM: mike@.epprecht.net
MVP Program: http://www.microsoft.com/mvp
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/epprecht/
"Enric" <Enric@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CFD1B642-341C-4A97-8D0B-DFDBF16C15FF@.microsoft.com...
> Thanks to all for response.
> Tibor,
> Your fix not always works.
> David,
> All the SQL SERVERS (2000) own sp3 and sp3a for olap services.
> I think that it could be a network problem between domains or something
> like
> that. There are two sql server which are living in an AD environment, the
> rest one running under NT Domains.
> Well, I also want understand that maybe to have so many servers at the
> same
> time...
> "Tibor Karaszi" wrote:
>
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